View Full Version : 1998 Eagle Talon My First Car (lucky me!)


Gk787
11-14-2008, 12:10 AM
Hey whats up guys. GK here. It's been over a year since I've logged on here. Nice to see its still active.
I love the fact that this place still as good as it used to be. I wonder what I have missed?
Anyways, I got my first car a month ago. Beautiful Car.
My choices:
1:Ford Taurus
2:Ugly Fiat
3:Mitsubishi Galant
or 4 Dodge Caravan.
.... Well, to tell you the truth those were basically the cars I was allowed to choose. Until my uncle gladly offered to sell his car.
Now what I got:
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9753/1020081518ml6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1020081518ml6.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img296/1020081518ml6.jpg/1/)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7997/1025081503eh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1025081503eh0.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img20/1025081503eh0.jpg/1/)

Pictures don't do justice (due to my bad photo skills)
I don't know too much on the specs because I just got it.
But
98 Talon AWD TSI
Upgraded Turbo (16g as opposed to stock)
64k Original Miles
4 speed auto (:( will change though)
2.0l 4G63 16v Engine
Dyno at 346Hp
Enkei Rims.

I'll have more specs and pictures soon, its in the shop because the oxygen sensor is busted.
I need to put an intercooler too. Haha
Let me know what you think.
And by the way. Its no where near a Ricer, so don't even start please

Bl0cks
11-14-2008, 01:43 AM
Lucky you indeed. I would have chosen the Caravan.

t3ku
11-14-2008, 02:58 AM
Why is it missing the rear wing >_>

A talon tsi was one of my picks before I got mine, nice choice.

GTR
11-14-2008, 03:52 AM
Ricer? Actually, it's a quite a sleeper. It's basically an Eclipse GS-T. Eclipse base is a sluggish piece of shit (140hp) as opposed to the 210hp GS-T, while they both pretty much look the same.

osa_mah91
11-14-2008, 04:19 AM
nice ride, i'd drive those proudly

Schaefft
11-14-2008, 05:48 AM
Oh yeah, I love the eagle talon! Looks just awesome, I love it. Wanted to model it, great to see I always find someone for reference pics :D

btw, the Taurus and Caravan wouldnt be bad either :D

t3ku
11-14-2008, 06:52 AM
Ricer? Actually, it's a quite a sleeper. It's basically an Eclipse GS-T. Eclipse base is a sluggish piece of shit (140hp) as opposed to the 210hp GS-T, while they both pretty much look the same.

Mits Eclipse GSX*

GS-T was FWD, GSX was AWD.

His car has a 205bhp/220lb tq, turbo engine.

Gk787
11-14-2008, 07:49 AM
Lucky you indeed. I would have chosen the Caravan.
Haha. Well, Considering my options i was actually leaning towards the galant. I heard they crap out around 170k though. :\

Why is it missing the rear wing >_>

A talon tsi was one of my picks before I got mine, nice choice.
Its got one, just not the usual really tall one, its got the shorter fish like wing. I like it better than the other one because with the other one, its really hard to see out of the back.
Thanks, what did you end up getting?

Ricer? Actually, it's a quite a sleeper. It's basically an Eclipse GS-T. Eclipse base is a sluggish piece of shit (140hp) as opposed to the 210hp GS-T, while they both pretty much look the same.
It's just when I first started out here on the forums, if you own a Japanese type car, you would automatically be considered a ricer. Things have changed since then. And I guess, technically its not a Japanese car. It's the American Version of a Japanese. And I believe as t3ku said, it is the GSX you are talking about.

nice ride, i'd drive those proudly
Thanks. I do drive it proudly. I loved pulling up to a ricer in a stop light and wanting a challenge, revs up his little weedwacker. Then i roar my engine (its more deep than high pitched) then when he accelerates of the line, I go into drive, and slowly take a right turn away from the ricer. Its funny, i bet the guy was like... "omgwtfbbq?". I don't race in this baby. I treat her right

Oh yeah, I love the eagle talon! Looks just awesome, I love it. Wanted to model it, great to see I always find someone for reference pics :D

btw, the Taurus and Caravan wouldnt be bad either :D
Hey if you need any pics, let me know.

DodgeBoy
11-14-2008, 10:15 AM
Got a pic of a dyno sheet?

Gk787
11-14-2008, 04:32 PM
Nope. My uncle took it in after he put the new turbo in. its been almost a year.
I will take it though after i put in some new parts. ( a couple of months)

t3ku
11-14-2008, 06:20 PM
Its got one, just not the usual really tall one, its got the shorter fish like wing. I like it better than the other one because with the other one, its really hard to see out of the back.
Thanks, what did you end up getting?
Ya I looked up the talon, the later models had the low pro wing as compared to the tall one on the earlier models. Does look better, just threw me off for a minute there.

I got a 92 300zx.

Kracka
11-14-2008, 11:36 PM
DSM, eh?


Sorry to hear that, dude.

Ditch the ugly wheels, and headlights for OEM pieces.

t3ku
11-14-2008, 11:39 PM
Those are Enkei RC03, those wheels own :\

No opinion on the head lamps.

Gk787
11-15-2008, 10:22 AM
DSM, eh?


Sorry to hear that, dude.

Ditch the ugly wheels, and headlights for OEM pieces.

Hey we all have our opinions. I'm not going to say my car is faster than yours like most people, or start an argument, but I will say I love my car, and I am very lucky to be getting one of this power,performance, and looks. Most people get Junkyard Specials, and I am just one of the Lucky few who don't. So, I respect your opinion, I just don't agree with it.

Those are Enkei RC03, those wheels own :\

No opinion on the head lamps.

Thanks, they are nice, and fit the car well (will take better pics tomorrow because of work tonight)

And nice choice on the car you got. Do you have a Thread?

And they are the Projector Headlights, with standard lights (not the blue) They are nice, and as I said, Pictures don't give justice.

t3ku
11-15-2008, 02:00 PM
Yup I do, http://www.nfscars.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23092

Would love to have Enkei's myself, you're quite lucky to own a set.

hondaman
11-15-2008, 06:03 PM
Cool car, post a vid sometime!
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Gk787
11-16-2008, 12:59 AM
Yup I do, http://www.nfscars.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23092

Would love to have Enkei's myself, you're quite lucky to own a set.
Dude your car is awesome. I heard somewhere that those have the skyline motors in them (not sure if its true or not) none-the-less, congrats. beautiful car
And about the Enkie's, they are actually Enkei CDR9, and best of all they are about $120 a pop. You should look into them. ;)
Cool car, post a vid sometime!
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Thank you sir. And I will, once I buy a decent camera, My phone is what I've been using lately (for pics), the video quality is crap, but I'll find something and will let you know when I have Vids

t3ku
11-16-2008, 01:10 AM
Dude your car is awesome. I heard somewhere that those have the skyline motors in them (not sure if its true or not) none-the-less, congrats. beautiful car
And about the Enkie's, they are actually Enkei CDR9, and best of all they are about $120 a pop. You should look into them. ;)

The SR20 isnt stock, so if any Z32(VEG30DE/DETT) has it, it was added. I wouldnt mind swapping for a SR20DET later on as I plan to engine swap anyways.

CDR9? Ugh...look so much like the other ones >_<
I do plan to get Enkeis in the future, like RP03s(wants Arashi's but rare...), just no money atm.

Got any plans for your Talon?

Gk787
11-16-2008, 01:48 AM
The SR20 isnt stock, so if any Z32(VEG30DE/DETT) has it, it was added. I wouldnt mind swapping for a SR20DET later on as I plan to engine swap anyways.

CDR9? Ugh...look so much like the other ones >_<
I do plan to get Enkeis in the future, like RP03s(wants Arashi's but rare...), just no money atm.

Got any plans for your Talon?
Oh, I guess it was added then. I doubted they all come stock with those. hehe. Nice choice.
Yeah, they do look alike, but yeah they are the CDR9's. 17"s...ah beauty haha.
Nice, they would look good on your Z, and putting money in a car is alot of money (looking at your thread it seems you already notice) haha, and yeah, but hey, its worth the money,hardwork and dedication in the end.

And yeah. First I'm starting with Visuals. Besides the Front Mounted Intercooler, I already have it to the HP level i want (exceeding actually, haha)
So Maybe some new rims (Mom Curbchecked the rims coming in to drop off the car)
Sound System with Pyle 7in Retractable screen
Then:
A New Dash
Turbo Boost Control,
Boost Gauge Mounted Above Door (near the panels)
Throttle Gauge Next to Boost gauge (it just looks cool, haha)
Fuel Control (controls fuel intake, Less for better MPG, more for better HP and Performance)
Garrett T4/T5 Turbo
HKS Sequential BOV (right now just has a waste gate which drags down my boost)
New Cold air Intake with *electronic* turbo (just a fan in the intake which sucks in air.. 5-7hp boost)
Maybe a methanol-water injection system, keep the engine nice and cool. hehe
and most important.
MANUAL TRANNY SWAP!. Its auto right now.. what a bummer, haha.
Manual Transmission=$450
Labor=$1,000
Not too bad.
Then Maybe some new injectors, and other minor things.
Depends what taco bell brings to me every 2 weeks, haha
P.S. Right now, I don't know whats wrong, but my car gets like 15mpg. Im guessing its the AWD. My parent's SUVs get better milage, haha.

t3ku
11-16-2008, 02:59 AM
Looks good on the mod list. The rims, what is the lug pattern, I might be interested in taking them off your hands.

15mpg for a car like that....yaaa something is definitely wrong, have you done a full tune up and maintenance yet? I cleaned the TB on my Jeep and suddenly the car's performance and mpg increased drastically. You also might have an O2 censor failing, is your exhaust rich or smell like gasoline?

Gk787
11-16-2008, 09:30 AM
Looks good on the mod list. The rims, what is the lug pattern, I might be interested in taking them off your hands.

15mpg for a car like that....yaaa something is definitely wrong, have you done a full tune up and maintenance yet? I cleaned the TB on my Jeep and suddenly the car's performance and mpg increased drastically. You also might have an O2 censor failing, is your exhaust rich or smell like gasoline?

I believe Its 5 or 6, I'm not to sure, I'll update this when I get back, and check.
Actually yes, This car Just got back from the shop 2days ago, and Funny you mention the Oxygen Sensor, it was failing, and it got replaced, but something weird happened, the check engine light turned on AGAIN immediatley as I left with it. They did a Full inspection and they say the car is perfect. I don't know whats wrong with it. I might take it back soon.

Revolution
11-16-2008, 09:48 AM
The SR20 isnt stock, so if any Z32(VEG30DE/DETT) has it, it was added. I wouldnt mind swapping for a SR20DET later on as I plan to engine swap anyways.

Just thought I'd pipe up and say that the SR20 is a Silvia 4-cylinder motor, the RB26 is the Skyline motor. :P

Anyhow, nice DSM. Pity they never sold the Eclipse here.

t3ku
11-16-2008, 05:04 PM
I believe Its 5 or 6, I'm not to sure, I'll update this when I get back, and check.
Actually yes, This car Just got back from the shop 2days ago, and Funny you mention the Oxygen Sensor, it was failing, and it got replaced, but something weird happened, the check engine light turned on AGAIN immediatley as I left with it. They did a Full inspection and they say the car is perfect. I don't know whats wrong with it. I might take it back soon.

Possible the O2 sensor was related to something else, I would ignore who you took it to and maybe go to a Talon forum and ask some questions and/or take it to a specialist dealing in imports.
There are a few mechanical things that could cause that performance loss, but Im not sure on the Talon.

Maybe MAF(Mass Air Flow) sensor could be acting up, fuel regulator, and double check your throttle bodies(I dont trust mechanics...at all) and see if they are clean(just pull the intake hoses off and check the valves). Fuel pump, fuel regulator and fuel filter also, though if they did a tuneup they should have replaced the FF?

Just thought I'd pipe up and say that the SR20 is a Silvia 4-cylinder motor, the RB26 is the Skyline motor.
I keep getting the two mixed up >_<

Killua
11-16-2008, 06:53 PM
Pretty cool car you got, especially since it's the AWD version. Congrats!

Gk787
11-19-2008, 11:06 PM
Possible the O2 sensor was related to something else, I would ignore who you took it to and maybe go to a Talon forum and ask some questions and/or take it to a specialist dealing in imports.
There are a few mechanical things that could cause that performance loss, but Im not sure on the Talon.

Maybe MAF(Mass Air Flow) sensor could be acting up, fuel regulator, and double check your throttle bodies(I dont trust mechanics...at all) and see if they are clean(just pull the intake hoses off and check the valves). Fuel pump, fuel regulator and fuel filter also, though if they did a tuneup they should have replaced the FF?


I keep getting the two mixed up >_<
Well I checked around a bit, Im getting even better mileage now, but still about 230 miles to the tank, not too bad. I'm really having an issue with Turbo lag though. Might need that super sequential BOV sooner than I thought. When I went to fill up on gas, SO MUCH AIR came pouring out at the gas cap. it was atleast 7 continuios seconds of air. Im surprised nothing got damaged.
Anyways, about the rims, they have like 8 places for lug nuts, so Im sure its not an issue, although I may have found you a deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370113116683&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=370104972523&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu% 3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4
check it out.

Pretty cool car you got, especially since it's the AWD version. Congrats!
Thanks man, Yeah AWD is beast here in the snow and for take-offs

t3ku
11-19-2008, 11:28 PM
Well I checked around a bit, Im getting even better mileage now, but still about 230 miles to the tank, not too bad. I'm really having an issue with Turbo lag though. Might need that super sequential BOV sooner than I thought. When I went to fill up on gas, SO MUCH AIR came pouring out at the gas cap. it was atleast 7 continuios seconds of air. Im surprised nothing got damaged.
Anyways, about the rims, they have like 8 places for lug nuts, so Im sure its not an issue, although I may have found you a deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370113116683&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=370104972523&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu% 3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4
check it out.

Ya, like mine your car is fuel injected and the fuel system is pressurized, be sure to slowly open the gas cap and let all the pressure out first before removing it.
Does the new turbo that was installed have a chip to adjust it(they are supposed to have one)?

I saw those 18s before, I dont want anything over 17 though and my car's lug pattern is 5x114.3... *looks around* Yup, your car has the same pattern for a 98 Talon Tsi.

Gk787
11-19-2008, 11:58 PM
Ya, like mine your car is fuel injected and the fuel system is pressurized, be sure to slowly open the gas cap and let all the pressure out first before removing it.
Does the new turbo that was installed have a chip to adjust it(they are supposed to have one)?

I saw those 18s before, I dont want anything over 17 though and my car's lug pattern is 5x114.3... *looks around* Yup, your car has the same pattern for a 98 Talon Tsi.
Yeah, I do, I just never had this much air come out. usually its like a soda bottle, just maybe max 2 seconds. But yesterday it was mad pressurized. Haha.
Im pretty sure it does, but I didn't install it, so I have no clue where it is. Either way, Boost Controller is coming my way hopefully within the next 2 months, so It shouldn't be much hassle until then. Turbo lag kills me sometimes at the entrance of a major intersection. Speed limit is 65, and i only go like 40 until it stops catching up. I found a cheap SSQV on ebay for cheap, i just don't know about the quality. Seems to be DTP Motorsport. Haven't heard of them
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__SSQV-BOV-TURBO-BLOW-OFF-VALVE-ECLIPSE-TALON-GSX-GST-RSX_W0QQitemZ160290626319QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ20Q26 Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewItem QQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1 60290626319&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
then again, i really wasn't into BOV, until i realized it could help eliminate turbo lag and keep the turbo constant and boosted.

t3ku
11-20-2008, 03:17 AM
No idea one the BOV, I'd stick with a known brand like HKS since their products are known and trusted.

Boost controller is what I was looking for, it should be near the Turbo on the engine, but then again one may not have been attached, i dont know for sure. Ya that really needs to be adjusted, sounds like whoever installed it tuned it for high end and not for low end.

Difference in the presure can be caused by a lot of things, I know my car is a 500cc injector and always has at least that amount flowing, when you take your foot of the brake you can hear it dump fuel back into the tank.

For one thing, heat/cold can cause the difference, heat causes fuel to expand and cold vice versa, so if the fuel was warm to begin with and then cooled off for some reason it would cause a sucking effect inside the tank.

Sir Tristan
10-05-2009, 03:43 PM
What's wrong with the headlights please?

The car looks awesome!

Apocalypse
10-06-2009, 02:06 AM
Now that was Epic Revival.

OZ
10-06-2009, 02:11 AM
What's wrong with the headlights please?

The car looks awesome!

have you looked at the post date when you were digging for this? Seriously, sometimes you're such a noob...:x

the op stopped visiting our forums on the same day of his last post btw... almost a year ago.